http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1//App_Themes/Mix/images/feedimage.pnghttp://www.visitmix.com/blogs/Joshua/Leaflets-for-iPhone-Beautiful-Standards-Based-Design/Leaflets for iPhone: Beautiful Standards-Based Designhttp://www.visitmix.com/blogs/Joshua/Leaflets-for-iPhone-Beautiful-Standards-Based-Design/en-usSat, 25 Aug 2007 02:26:02 GMTSat, 25 Aug 2007 02:26:02 GMTEvNet (EvNet, Version=1.0.3188.26527, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null)Hi Kevin,<br /><br />I read Eric's post when he posted it, and Molly Holzschlag and I discussed these exact issues with the Blue Flavor guys when they were in the studio.&nbsp; I think you might be confusing a few things.&nbsp; Leaflets are definitely web-standards -- they don't use any proprietary Apple stuff.&nbsp; Everything there is W3C standard.&nbsp; <br /><br />Eric's issue is more generic.&nbsp; He's talking more about web sites than about RIA-style applications (leaflets definitely doesn't act like a web site, it behaves like an app)&nbsp; It is quite possible to use web standards and yet not be cross-browser.&nbsp; Especially in the mobile space, web standards support has not been complete enough to support the rich kind of functionality you can get in desktop AJAX while being cross-browser.&nbsp; While your Palm probably doesn't have the necessary level of standards support, if you used a browser like Opera Mobile/Mini, leaflets could be made to work.<br /><br />If you want a rich UI app that runs identically on a wide range of mobile devices today, you don't really have any options.&nbsp; Maybe Java?&nbsp; That's what I think is so remarkable about Leaflets -- it's the first example of an app that is able to compete with a proprietary runtime look/feel, using only W3C standards.&nbsp; It suggests that web standards still may have an important role to play in mobile, as other devices embed browsers with better standards support.<br />http://www.visitmix.com/blogs/Joshua/Leaflets-for-iPhone-Beautiful-Standards-Based-Design/?CommentID=208Sat, 25 Aug 2007 02:26:02 GMThttp://www.visitmix.com/blogs/Joshua/Leaflets-for-iPhone-Beautiful-Standards-Based-Design/?CommentID=2080http://www.visitmix.com/208/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0Hi Kevin,I read Eric's post when he posted it, and Molly Holzschlag and I discussed these exact issues with the Blue Flavor guys when they were in the studio.&nbsp; I think you might be confusing a few things.&nbsp; Leaflets are definitely web-standards -- they don't use any proprietary Apple&#8230;allenjs0http://www.visitmix.com/208/Trackback.aspxYou are incorrect. Leaflets don't use web standards. <br /><br />If they did I could use them on the Palm Treo or my desktop running FF or IE (or other devices).&nbsp; The leaflets don't work on my Palm Phone or my desktop. I'd suggest they heed <a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/08/08/the-veterans-charge/" target="_blank">Eric Meyer's good advice to stop creating iPhone-only sites</a>.<br />http://www.visitmix.com/blogs/Joshua/Leaflets-for-iPhone-Beautiful-Standards-Based-Design/?CommentID=207Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:38:13 GMThttp://www.visitmix.com/blogs/Joshua/Leaflets-for-iPhone-Beautiful-Standards-Based-Design/?CommentID=2070http://www.visitmix.com/207/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0You are incorrect. Leaflets don't use web standards. If they did I could use them on the Palm Treo or my desktop running FF or IE (or other devices).&nbsp; The leaflets don't work on my Palm Phone or my desktop. I'd suggest they heed Eric Meyer's good advice to stop creating iPhone-only sites.kevingoldman0http://www.visitmix.com/207/Trackback.aspx